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Genesis Posts: 71431 Incept: 2007-06-26
KD^2
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/856-To....
---------- "The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-03-07 13:48:23
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Johnny_crab Posts: 887 Incept: 2008-10-09
Boonieland south Texas, Ron Paul's District Online
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EXACTLY. Where do you bank? Oh, at The Mattress. My deposits are insured by large canines, trained & equipped family members, and multiple alarm systems. One company or more at a time and one bank or more at a time until this is fixed or companies and banks are gone. ---------- If you want to know truth, start by turning off your television. "Many, many people are coming into an understanding that the left/right, us vs them construct foisted upon them for centuries is, in fact, a meme constructed to control our thinking."--Truthseeker Last modified:
2009-03-07 16:59:40 by johnny_crab
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Mtgspy Posts: 6121 Incept: 2007-10-27
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I think the scariest part is that 99.99% of people out there who never heard of galbraith could not guess that they are holding on to value (albeit already low) that isn't there anymore because it's already owned by somebody else. Because this sounds like alien abduction to most you tell the story too, they will be laughing right up to the second the anal probe went in.
---------- It sounds antiquated, merchantilistic - until you figured out that I was hoarding for war.
2009-03-07 14:11:18
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Smartfan1 Posts: 31 Incept: 2009-02-17 Planet Earff
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Gen 80 percent of our Canadian trade goes to the U.S. Does that mean we are gonna get REAMED also? and one more Question isn't the U.S Gov. the number one gold holder in the world? So the gold in fort knoxs can safe guard the U.S.
2009-03-07 15:12:22
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Genesis Posts: 71431 Incept: 2007-06-26
KD^2
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Updated.
---------- "The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-03-07 15:39:48
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Billet Posts: 17 Incept: 2009-01-25 Somewhere north of central Texas.
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"Pleading will not get it done; all that does is confirm that you either lack the balls to do the right thing or are personally complicit in the corruption and embezzlement." G-Man, you summed it up. I go with complicit.
2009-03-07 15:43:16
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Nanna Posts: 2630 Incept: 2008-01-20 NY State
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My favorite ticker so far, thanks for this and everything else, Gen. Floyd Norris (IIRC on his blog) noted recently that Geithner should take some time to sit down at his desk and figure out how to deal with the CDS (as opposed to testifying all over the place). Part of the problem is that Treasury is having a hard time filling posts. That's not surprising to me, as bankers are having a hard time trusting each other (go figure) and compliance types are typically more paper pushers than mathematically adept. Perhaps Treasury could hire a few thousand summer interns from Rutgers,Courant (NYU)and any math majors at the NY State schools to do a million hours or so of grunt analytics of pairing trades by hand, supervised by the NY Fed. If they could arrange room and board at some local motels in the boroughs, I bet they'd have a lot of volunteers. N/
2009-03-07 16:00:22
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Laura Posts: 3153 Incept: 2008-05-05
Florida Space Coast
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Complicit! I am so tired of this nonsense! ---------- Karl's just a shill for Big Math. 1LumpSum Honey, where's the AK ? Tyler Durden My Ford focus can get me from point A to point B just as good Tigger's Cadillac. And my back door window is not broken. Mliu
2009-03-07 16:05:07
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Alsace Posts: 937 Incept: 2008-10-27
Bear says: Come Get Some!
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Karl wrote..If you think that the market is collapsing because people are worried about "socialism", you're wrong. Yes, that's a concern, and yes, people are worried that you're going "hard left" - but there are winners in such a marketplace. Great line and point. If this were the case, there would be evidence of the "Obama trade." There is no Obama trade, this is systemic destruction. As you've said many times before, the Market is taking on the role of cleanser and truth-finder. It is an awesome (in the classical sense of the word) sight to behold. If they don't do something, and soon, it will not stop and it will NOT be denied. ---------- Via ova capitum dura est. Last modified:
2009-03-07 16:05:23 by alsace
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Downrange Posts: 4672 Incept: 2007-09-26
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I never thought Obama was anything but complicit. Look at his voting record in senate, and compare that with his Liberal com-communists (I won't even slur the last three syllables of the word "compatriots"). Look at the vote in all the CONgress actions that have furthered this kleptocracy. Are republicans at fault too? Of course, they're all on the take. But the voting records are clear. Bush practically fostered a GOP mutiny with the bailout crap. Anyone who expected anything other than total complicity from O was dreaming. ---------- "Panics do not destroy capital; they merely reveal the extent to which it has been previously destroyed by its betrayal into hopelessly unproductive works" John Mills
2009-03-07 16:08:50
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Passchendaele Posts: 228 Incept: 2008-12-17
Pacific Northwest
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When I talk about this stuff, people still look at me like I'm from Mars. My accountant laughed in my face yesterday. Lessee, 17 banks have failed this year; 401k's are now 160k's; FDIC needs a cash infusion of a 1/2 trillion dollars; govt. spending has gone insane... ya, nothing to see here. I'm reminded of the cop at the parade riot in Animal House: 'All is well!'
2009-03-07 16:08:56
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Fugitivekind Posts: 613 Incept: 2007-08-20
Boston
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Looks like this ticker was geared to Joe Six Pack. If that is the case you may want to further explain tax the innocent to fund the guilty. I'm not sure the average Joe will understand this.
---------- "I refuse to leave our children with a debt they cannot repay, and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control." Barack Obama, Feb. 29, 2009
2009-03-07 16:12:10
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Stonedog Posts: 1105 Incept: 2008-05-29
New Jersey Online
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Fugitive - if people want to understand they will. Unfortunately, most people are of the "ignorance is bliss variety" - I'm sorry to say...
---------- "F**k CNBS, CONgress, Obama, the Democrats, the Republicans, the ratings agencies, the Banksters, the Fed, the FASB, all the government regulatory agencies, the Trilateral Commission, the Council of Foreign Relations, the G whatever, the UN, and any other bastard or big corporate interest that has a fingerprint on this
2009-03-07 16:23:26
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Alsace Posts: 937 Incept: 2008-10-27
Bear says: Come Get Some!
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: never understimate the human beings capacity of self-delusion. They don't WANT to hear it, they WANT the unicorn. ---------- Via ova capitum dura est.
2009-03-07 16:48:56
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Pabloescobar Posts: 5325 Incept: 2008-04-23
Pacific Northwest
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I can't tell you the number of times I have had the conversation with highly intelligent, well educated, 6 figure income individuals where they say that they no longer look at their 401K statements. The evil genius behind 401K money is like taxes, take it out before they get it and it doesn't feel like it's yours anyway. That's why the income tax works so well. take home pay is your real income, all those other alphabet numbers aren't real. ---------- “Science is built up with facts, as a house is with stones. But a collection of facts is no more a science than a heap of stones is a house.” - Jules Henri Poincare
2009-03-07 17:04:16
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Stonedog Posts: 1105 Incept: 2008-05-29
New Jersey Online
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Only reason I still put in is that the employer matches up to 6% - I take and try to keep it safe. Until I may have to pull it out...
---------- "F**k CNBS, CONgress, Obama, the Democrats, the Republicans, the ratings agencies, the Banksters, the Fed, the FASB, all the government regulatory agencies, the Trilateral Commission, the Council of Foreign Relations, the G whatever, the UN, and any other bastard or big corporate interest that has a fingerprint on this
2009-03-07 17:24:16
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Xanares Posts: 1288 Incept: 2008-11-10
London
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Excellent ticker Karl. You're right, we can talk all day about whether Obama is getting it or not. The questions is if he is complicit or not. All arrows point in the wrong directions sadly. Appointing Geithner and Summers is the pinnacle imo.
2009-03-07 17:33:08
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Loudoungroup Posts: 2845 Incept: 2008-02-01
San Antonio, TX
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Stone - you work for the federal government? 6% sounds familiar. TSP? ---------- http://caps.fool.com/player/loudoungroup.aspx
2009-03-07 17:35:33
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Stonedog Posts: 1105 Incept: 2008-05-29
New Jersey Online
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Loudon - nope not .gov, non-profit... I am FORMER .gov. But definitely not right now. One of the reasons I can openly criticize... ---------- "F**k CNBS, CONgress, Obama, the Democrats, the Republicans, the ratings agencies, the Banksters, the Fed, the FASB, all the government regulatory agencies, the Trilateral Commission, the Council of Foreign Relations, the G whatever, the UN, and any other bastard or big corporate interest that has a fingerprint on this
2009-03-07 18:12:18
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Torgo Posts: 389 Incept: 2009-01-14
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Their will be no plans/fixes from the Government unless an actual responsible, hard working adult gets put in charge. This story sums it up. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew.... Quote:He said that on several occasions the president has had to hurry back from eating dinner with his family in the residence and then tucking his daughters in to bed, to conduct urgent government business. Matters are not helped by the pledge to give up smoking. I can't think of a time in history of the USA where we were in such dire straights and so leaderless.
2009-03-07 18:23:05
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Patentleathershoes Posts: 7642 Incept: 2007-09-13
Looking forward to PB&J time!
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To me, the scariest thing right now is that he doesn't seem to be doing ANYTHING. Not even tricks to try and pump the market.
2009-03-07 18:25:17
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Jinxx0r Posts: 2064 Incept: 2007-08-10
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Quote:Sources close to the White House say Mr Obama and his staff have been "overwhelmed" by the economic meltdown and have voiced concerns that the new president is not getting enough rest. omfg. even if it's TRUE you sure as hell don't show it or leak it. Quote:British officials, meanwhile, admit that the White House and US State Department staff were utterly bemused by complaints that the Prime Minister should have been granted full-blown press conference and a formal dinner, as has been customary. They concede that Obama aides seemed unfamiliar with the expectations that surround a major visit by a British prime minister. Quote:A well-connected Washington figure, who is close to members of Mr Obama's inner circle, expressed concern that Mr Obama had failed so far to "even fake an interest in foreign policy". There were plenty of reservations about his ability to do the job of an executive... ugh. ---------- "Americans grew tired of being thought of as dumb by the rest of the world, so in 2008, they went to the polls and removed all doubt" ~~ unknown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x2W12A8Qow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4
2009-03-07 18:48:12
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Mrbill Posts: 1733 Incept: 2008-10-19
LA
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You know what's scary about 'the bezzle'.. its how damn effective the market can be at forcing it out. It's ruthless and we see that in the financial stocks, GM, GE, the tech bubble. What happens when the market finally gets the courage to go after the biggest crook of them all, the government? Spending more than its taking in, lots of short term debt that it must roll over, and very questionable assets with huge future liabilities. I guess that's what everyone here is afraid of, the bond market, but despite being here for 5 months and reading for hours a day, sometimes these realizations just hit when you're showering. Scary ****.
2009-03-07 18:53:10
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Videopro Posts: 882 Incept: 2007-08-03 L.A. Area
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Uhmm... In the last 48 hours, we've had 'FDIC is broke' and 'Don't stash cash in your mattress', both statements coming from high .gov mouthpieces. This has got to give even the J6P's out there a warm and fuzzy feeling... ...NOT I think this is more like what comes to mind when they hear it: ![]() They seem to WORKING AT causing a bank run, no? ---------- ---------- "The Spinning Cyclone Of Deflation Is Fueled By Deficit Spending. An efficient asset destroying storm powered by the printing press". - Me Last modified:
2009-03-07 19:02:44 by videopro
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Patentleathershoes Posts: 7642 Incept: 2007-09-13
Looking forward to PB&J time!
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Interesting editorial from Peggy Noonan. http://online.wsj.com/article/declaratio.... Quote:His grace and generosity were staggering, but there was growing local anger at the military. Why was the disabled plane over land? The Marines launched an investigation—of themselves. This Wednesday the results were announced. Read the whole thing.
2009-03-07 19:05:45
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